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Our Commitment and Philosophy

Over the past few years, we explored the limits of bicycle generator lighting.  In our opinion, a primarily lighting system must be generator powered in order to provide the long term needs of a rando oriented cyclist. 

When we started the Rene Herse lighting project, we realized that there were no "optimal" front headlights.  We therefore created our own LED headlight system shown below.  That system also powered a handmade rear LED tailight.  This system was difficult to make because the ultimate generator hubs made by Schmidt, produce AC current.  We created a rectifier circuit to convert this AC power to DC current and embedded the circuitry inside the fork steerer tube.  Our system used twin headlights, one for near illumination and one for distance illumination.  This was back at a time when Halogen headlight systems, such as the Schmidt E6 were considered state of the art.

Rene Herse prototype headlights Schmidt Edelux headlight

Shortly after we displayed our Rene Herse bicycle at the San Diego show,  new more powerful lights made by Supernova (the E3) were introduced that outshone ours.   But what really impressed us was the Schmidt Edelux headlight which soon followed.  The Edelux headlight is perhaps the most balanced headlight for the randonneur rider.  It provides amazing illumination which is both sufficient for the near field, but astounding for great distances.  While the Supernova may be a bit brighter, the Edelux is more focused and we feel provides the best balance between distance visibility and NOT BLINDING oncoming traffic.  The Supernova is a great light.  But we feel the Edeluxe is better.

Interestingly, despite the ongoing improvement of LED emitters, the Edelux so far has not been updated in a number of years.  This is probably because any increase in output would force the light to fail the German tests which govern the light glare for oncoming motorists.  The Edelux is that bright!

Around the time of the Edelux introduction, the German company Busch+Muller introduced their Cyo headlights.  The Cyo headlight uses the same emitter and optics as the Schmidt Edelux so the performance between the two is essentially identical.  The difference is that the Edelux uses a luxurious machined aluminum housing for superior looks and reliability.  The Cyo is made of plastic.  It is more vulnerable to damage and to water penetration.  That said, we use Cyo headlights on some of our own bikes, and it is great.  But the Edelux is nicer and is worth the extra cost. 

A few years ago, Schmit came out with a new generator hub - now called the SONdeluxe.  Originally this hub was called the SON20 R, and was designed for use with small (i.e. 20") wheels which rotated more often for a given distance travelled, and therefore needed to have a lower output per revolution.  In the days of the halogen headlight, this hub was not powerful enough to power a bicycle moving at slower speeds with 700c or 650b wheels.  But with the move towards LED headlights, this hub with its lower output and less rotating resistance was more than up to the task of powering headlights on bikes with larger wheels.  So this hub became the new standard.  This hub is our best seller.

For tailights, we typically use the fender mounted Busch+Muller Seculite.  When we hand build a tailight for a Rene Herse custom bicycle, we cut one of these lights apart and imbed the guts into our custom aluminum housing.

 

   

 

 

Schmidt Generator Hubs

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Did you know?Setting up a lighting system can be difficult.  Please call us for assistance.  The difference between us and other companies is we thrive on helping our customers meet the most difficult challenges.

 

 

 

 

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Schmidt SONdelux

This is the backbone of any generator powered lighting system.  The build quality of Schmidt hubs is astounding.  The dependability is awe inspiring.  Of all the Schmidt hubs we have sent to customers, not one has ever come back to us!  In time that will probably change, but the usage the typical rider gets out of one of these hubs is beyond compare.  Schmidt hubs cost more than other hubs.  It is a fact.  But they also last much longer and typically have lower rotating resistance.  We sell many Schmidt hubs to owners of less costly generator hubs who have decided to finally get the best.  The cost per mile of using a Schmidt hub is very very low.

We offer the Schmidt SONdelux in 28, 32, and 36 hole.  We typically keep each of these in stock in silver.  We also try to keep the 32 hole in black available for immediate shipment as well.  We can get any other hub Schmidt makes quite quickly as well.

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Schmidt SON28 32 hole

on sale

This hub is now discontinued and is being replaced with another version.  But for the time being it is being sold at a discount which makes it extremely appealing.  This hub has a bit wider flange spacing which may be helpful (although not terribly necessary) for heavily loaded bikes.  It is heavier than the SONdelux.  But it also puts out more juice, so if you tend to ride slowly or if you want to power an accessory charging device like an EWerckx, than this hub may be the Best choice.  So for as long as they last, we can offer these in 32 hole.  The 36 hole hubs are now sold out.

 

 

Headlights and Tailights for Generator Hubs

Note:  All headlights and tailights we sell have a standlight (a capacitor that powers the light for awhile so that if you come to a stop, cars can still see you).  We do not sell headlights or tailights which do not have this feature.  It is silly to get a light without this feature. 

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Did you know?You can run just a single wire to your tailight as long as your frame/fork serve as ground?

 

 

 

 

 

 

Click here for pricing on lighting products and also special package offers

 

 

 

Did you know?Setting up a lighting system can be difficult.  Please call us for assistance.  The difference between us and other companies is we thrive on helping our customers meet the most difficult challenges.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Click here for pricing on lighting products and also special package offers

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Click here for pricing on lighting products and also special package offers

 

 

 

Did you know?Setting up a lighting system can be difficult.  Please call us for assistance.  The difference between us and other companies is we thrive on helping our customers meet the most difficult challenges.

 

 

 

 

 

Click here for pricing on lighting products and also special package offers

 

 

Schmidt Edelux

Edelux headlight Edelux headlight with our proprietary light bracket (sold separately )

This is the headlight that graces the finest randonneur bicycles in the world.  It is crazy bright, yet designed to not blind oncoming cars (still be careful on how you aim the light).  It makes halogen and twin light systems pretty much obsolete.  It has a "senso" mode to turn on automatically as it gets dark, although we typically don't use that feature.  There is an on/off switch that also controls electrical output for a rear tailight should you be using one.  We carry this light in both silver and black.  We stock only the long-wire version.   You will need to either crimp or solder on the spade connectors that go to the generator hub (these connectors and heat shrink tubing are included).  If you like, we will cut the wire to length and attach and solder the connectors for you as a courtesy if you give us the exact length you need.  This may add a day or two to the delivery time.

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Proprietary Rene Herse light bracket for mounting an Edelux or Cyo headlight

Take a look at the Edelux headlight at the top of this section, and you will see our lovely light bracket.  Most of the bicycles we sell (and the bicycles of many of our customers) have a front rack with eyes that provide a mounting point for a headlight.  A problem, though, is that a bracket is needed that will hold the light securely and also fit the light so that it doesn't interfere with the light's backside.  We have these brackets custom machined for us in Boulder Colorado to our exact specifications. 

Another issue is that lights held from underneath want to rotate.  That is why any mounting arrangement must be extremely secure to avoid rotation.  With a typical Nitto M12 rack, the bracket is mounted to the rack through the bracket's unthreaded end and into the rack's threaded eye.  Then we suggest using an additional nylock nut to provide even more protection against rotation.  Then, the light is attached to the bracket and the bolt goes into the bracket's threaded end.  And again, an additional nylock nut is used for added security. 

When all this is done, the light is very secure and if all is tightened down well, rotation just doesn't seem to be an issue.  We now provide the bolts and Nycloc nuts to make this installation complete.  Note that you don't want to go crazy tightening down the plastic body of the Cyo light - that can end badly!

We give the bracket a nice bit of finish work (a raw one is shown above) but we don't go insane on the polishing.  For $10 additional, we will go pretty insane on the polishing.

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Busch+Muller Cyo Senso Plus

B&M Cyo Senso Plus Silver

The performance of this light is essentially identical to the Edelux shown above.  But the housing is made of plastic.  This light works great and is very dependable.  But, it is made of plastic.  It is not as robust as the aluminum body Edelux.  It is still very very good.  But not the best.

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Busch+Muller Cyo Senso Plus Nearfield

This headlight is like the typical Cyo, but is the "nearfield" version which has some kind of reflector arrangement that optimizes this light for closer-in illumination.  It is still more than bright enough for a moderate speed rando rider.  So if you are mostly lighting things up for around town and the occasional longer mellow night ride, it is perfect.  But if you are a go-fast rider, and you don't want to outrun the headlight beam, go for the standard Cyo or the Edelux.

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Busch+Muller Cyo Senso Plus Nearfield with Daylight Mode

 

Not exactly as shown above - the light looks a lot like the typical Nearfield Cyo, but has a small bank of 4 LED emmiters just under the main light housing.  This bank of lights provides light output optimized for visibility during daylight hours by other road users.  We really haven't used this light, but were thinking it might be a really nifty idea. 

 

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Busch+Muller Cyo Seculite Plus

Side View Front View

This is a fantastic tailight that is designed for mounting on a fender.  Please, must go on a metal fender only.  Plastic fenders are not rigid enough for a tailight.  It has a standlight of course. We sometimes take these lights apart and use the guts on our cost-no-object Rene Herse custom tailights.  We find these lights to be quite robust.  But for added durability, you might want to take epoxy and "seal" the seams of the plastic components.  This increases water resistance and prevents the light from coming apart if you clunk it against something.  I bashed the one apart on my Boulder Bicycle a few years ago, pressed it back together, and it worked fine and is still in one happy piece. 

 

 

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